New “Timberliner” Coaster Trains by Gravity Group!

19 11 2008

Everything the Gravity Group has done has been very exciting. On November 18, the Gravity Group LLC, announced their Timberliner brand of coaster trains. The new trains will use ergonomic styling, shocks, and innovative restraints for increased comfort and safety. They will have “unparalleled ability to smoothly navigate the track for decreased train & track maintenance”. Reduced wear and tear on the tracks is important because wooden coasters have very high maintenance costs. They will also include compatibility with magnetic braking systems, on-board audio systems, and, most exciting of all, launch systems. It was very strategic for the Gravity Group to develop these trains, as they will do much to improve the overall popularity of wooden coasters. Many people complain about how wooden coasters are old-fashioned and uncomfortable, but these new trains will truly take wooden coasters into the 21st century. As for launch compatibility, maybe Cedar Point will finally get that rumored 500′ Intamin launched woodie!

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Holiday World Rumor Season – A Guide to the Madness

24 08 2008
The Voyage

The Voyage

A visit to the Holiblog these days can be exciting, excruciating, and most of all confusing.  It seems that Paula is playing with us all – and having a lot of fun doing it.  I’ll help you examine the hints and give you some of my theories.

The 2009 attraction is currently shrouded in mystery and could be practically anything.  We do know that the budget is 8.5 million; approximately what The Voyage cost.  That doesn’t mean that the new attraction will be a coaster, but it doesn’t eliminate that possibility.

Hints about riding a simulation, riding “in the back”, a lift, and a drop seem to suggest a roller coaster.  Still it could be a cross-park aerial tram ride, but that would leave a good chunk of the budget wide open.  One post mentioned the visit of a Gravity Group employee, claiming that the purpose was just to “ride the Voyage“.  Sure.  That post also made a reference to his physical height by calling him “The World’s Tallest Coaster Designer”.  This could be a hint that he has designed the world’s tallest coaster.  Of course, I do not think that the Gravity Group would build a 500′ or even 250′ (to be the world’s tallest woodie) wooden coaster, or that 8.5 million would buy it, or that Holiday World would choose that to be their next coaster.  It is, however, a prime example of how the HoliBlog has fun at the expense of coaster enthusiasts. Someone did point out in the comments that the Gravity Group also designs waterslide complexes, so it is possible that they are getting the world’s tallest waterslide or water coaster.

Vertigo

Vertigo

A very interesting post claimed that the name ‘Vertigo‘ was already taken.  I did some digging on RCDB and found that there was only one coaster in the world with the name Vertigo.  It was a Mountain Glider with an elevator lift, which would fit one hint.  The ride seems to be similar to a zip line, but with fixed track. Even though it fits many of the hints, I do not believe that Holiday World would build one of these rides because Vertigo was so problem ridden that it is currently SBNO (Standing But Not Operating).

Everything from a vertical impulse coaster to a water slide has been suggested.  Here’s my two cents:  Another Gravity Group coaster would undeniably win them the title of ‘Wooden Coaster Capital of the World!’ and would not be disappointing, but would be somewhat redundant with the already well-rounded collection of woodies at the park.  A recent post suggested that the ride would be “a leg up on the competition”.  I suggested that it could be a racing coaster, which would be a unique and fun addition to the park.  If they get a new woodie I hope that it is a replica of a classic ride such as the Rye Playland Aeroplane Coaster or the Riverview Bobs.  This hasn’t been hinted at, but what I think the park needs right now to round out their coaster collection is a nice B&M inverted, flyer, or hyper coaster.

If you have any ideas about the new ride please post them in the comments and stay tuned this Tuesday for the announcement!

The Voyage

The Voyage





Rebuild the Cedar Point Cyclone!

19 08 2008
The Cedar Point Cyclone

The Cedar Point Cyclone

Cedar Point, home of the largest collection of coasters in the world, has been lacking something for a great while.  It should be noted that of their 17 coasters, only 2 are genuine woodies (Gemini and Cedar Creek Mine Ride do not count).  Ever since 1951, a great hole has been left in the park.  Cedar Point has tried to patch it with many rides including Disaster Transport, but has failed.  Nothing could take the place of the Cyclone.

The Cyclone is a beautiful coaster

The Cyclone was a beautiful coaster

We know very little about this ride.  We know that it was a collaboration between two of the greatest coaster designers of all time; it was designed by Prior & Church and built by Harry Traver.  It opened in 1929 and was demolished in 1951.  According to The Walkerville Times, “This monster struck fear in the hearts of many; riding it became a rite of passage for visiting teenagers.” [source]

The 72' drop

The 72' drop

We do, however, have the layout of the ride and an excellent NoLimits simulation of it.  If you own NoLimits, I suggest that you download this track here.  Also check out some of his other sims of classic coasters here and here.  If you don’t own NoLimits yet you can find it here.  The length of the simulated coaster is 2,680 feet and takes 1:45 total time to ride.  The ride appears to have a lot of airtime and a few good lateral g’s (but of course that is all up to the banking of the turns).  The ride is about as long as the Blue Streak, though a few feet shorter in height, so it stands to reason that the ride would be about as intense.  That means the Cyclone would be an ideal middle of the ground ride which would appeal to all ages.

The simple but great layout of the Cyclone

The simple but great layout of the Cyclone

The ride feels like it would fit perfectly in either Great Coaster’s International (GCI) or Gravity Group’s portfolios, which is why I propose that the project be a collaboration between the two firms.  GCI would finalize the design and provide their Millenium Flyer trains, while Gravity Group would actually build the ride.  The Millenium Flyer trains are important because they look like classic Prior and Church trains with their open fronts and articulated cars (for negotiation of P&C’s particularly twisted coasters) and because their heavy wood frames and upholstered seats make for a comfortable ride.  Gravity Group is important because GCI has quite a few projects that they are working on, they build very high quality rides, and they use steel support structures like the Traver company.  The collaboration would also be symbolic because the original Cyclone was designed by Prior & Church and built by Harry Traver.

Millenium Flyer trains by GCI

Millennium Flyer trains by GCI

But where to put it?  The answer is simple: about where it used to be.  The area currently taken up by Disaster Transport would be perfect.  Estimating from the grid in NoLimits editor, the Cyclone is about 160 meters by 40 meters.  Taking a rough measure using Google Maps, Disaster Transport is about 160 by 60 meters.  But what about Disaster Transport, you say?  I say that it is an ultimately forgettable ride housed in a building that is quite an eyesore to that area.  Being in this position, the coaster would also be a welcoming addition to the skyline as visible from the parking lot.  Would you rather look at a big warehouse or a beautiful beach?  This location for the Cyclone would be both beautiful and historically significant.

Disaster Transport is one attractive ride

Disaster Transport is one attractive ride

There are two trends currently that make the rebuilding of this ride realistic now.  One is that Cedar Point and the Cedar Fair chain are becoming more devoted to attracting families to the parks.  The Cyclone would certainly be a roller coaster that would appeal to multiple age groups.  The other is the trend towards constructing new GCI coasters across the Cedar Fair chain.  Both California’s Great America and Worlds of Fun are getting new GCI’s for 2009, and Valleyfair got one in 2007.

The Cedar Point Cyclone was a fun and historically significant coaster.  Today, it would be an ideal addition to the park’s steel coaster heavy lineup.  I’m sure that you can see from these reasons that it would be a great idea to build this ride again.  So this goes out to Cedar Point: Please rebuild the Cyclone!

Readers: What do you think?  Would you ride the Cyclone?  Should Cedar Point rebuild it?  Please comment!

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